Infamous Utahn John D Lee

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October’s infamous Utahn, is part of one of the darkest stains on Utah history, The Mountain Meadows Massacre. John D Lee was the only person that was held accountable for the deaths of the immigrants.

John D Lee was a loyal man. His loyalty and desire to serve and fit in with something would be his demise. Born in Kaskaskia, Illinois on September 12, 1812. John D Lee wouldn’t end up joining the Mormon church until he was 25. At that time he took the doctrine of plural marriage and had 19 wives, yes you heard that correct, 19 wives. During this time Lee would also join the Mormon Militia. We noticed that Lee had a lot of the childhood trauma that many of our other criminals have had; loss of a parent at a young age, alcoholic parent… Perhaps his loyalties came to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young because he didn’t have figures to look up to when he was younger? Lee helped with the western expansion of the Mormon’s into Utah.

Fast forward to Parley P. Pratt being murdered in Arkansas, Mormons thought he was a martyr and that this was more persecution, even though it was by the legal husband of one of Pratt’s wives. The space that Mountain Meadows Massacre took place was a fill up spot for travelers before traveling on to California. Stock piling for the long journey west. Word got out that an immigrant party by the name of the Baker-Fancher was going to be stopping there after leaving SLC. This is where Lee became the scapegoat. Militia members planned an attack, which included Paiute Indians who they told could take any provisions, on the Baker-Francher party. After promising the group they could leave without harm, the tides turned and the attacks started on the 7th of September 1857 and ended on September 11th with 120 men, women, and children over the age of 7 being slaughtered. Lee doing the final act. They buried them quickly, took their items, and the younger kids were given to local families. John D Lee would be the only one to stand trial.

Lee was quoted as saying to the Salt Lake Tribune, “ Lee. I am no traitor. I will never betray Brigham Young, as he was not there. Still I do not intend to any that others were not guilty, but Brigham Young sent messengers with dispatches to that place (the meadows) but all was over and it was too late.

From PBS.org, “Lee’s involvement in the massacre — the extent of which is still vigorously disputed and will probably never be known — was to haunt him for the next two decades, and would ultimately lead to his execution. He had written a letter to Brigham Young shortly after the massacre which laid the blame squarely on the Paiute Indians, but even among his own neighbors rumors of Lee’s guilt abounded. In 1858 a federal judge came to southwestern Utah to investigate the massacre and Lee’s part in it, but Lee went into hiding and local Mormons refused to cooperate with the investigation. Folk songs dating back to this year blamed Lee for the massacre. A warrant for his arrest remained outstanding.

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He found himself exiled and eventually executed. Listen to the episode below to hear what we have to say about this gross moment in Utah’s history.

From Famous Trials, ” The only wonder is that Lee, who was an intelligent man, would allow himself to be so often and so grossly deceived, and still repose confidence in his leaders. The answer to this is, that he had the utmost faith – a fanatical faith – in the truth of the Mormon religion, and believed that no other doctrine would enable him to attain immortality and future happiness.

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Mountain Meadows Massacre Monument Atlas Obscura. photo Mangoman88

Some of the resources that we used for this episode: Smithsonian Magazine/ PBS / Famous Trials / Mountain Meadows UNL edu / National Park Service

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Episode 174 Utah Pumpkin Feuds

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Do you think the pumpkin patches in Utah have feuds, like West Side Story dancing kind of feuds? We do! Episode 174 we ran through a list of 40 of the the most family friendly fall adventures to take through every county in Utah, courtesy of Tips for Family Trips. Utah has zero shortage of corn mazes.

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The end of September brings our infamous Utah segment. This month, although he was only born in Utah and spent a mere 11 years, we discussed the monster that is Gary Ridgway. Up until the last year, he was known as one of the most deadly serial killers in history.

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Infamous Utahn Orrin Porter Rockwell

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For our monthly segment on an infamous Utahn we decided to deep dive into Orrin Porter Rockwell. Hero to some, the Mormon’s bodyguard to Joseph Smith, and epitome of the Wild, Wild West.

Porters birth date is still not quite know with a guess of June 28, 1813 or June 25, 1815. He was born in Belchertown, Hampshire County, Massachusetts to Orin and Sarah Rockwell.  Died June 9, 1878 of natural causes in Salt Lake City, Utah and is buried in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

Believe it or not, Porters life did not consist solely of violent shoot-outs and he is not only remembered as a lawman. Rockwell was a noted guide and mountain man, and at one time operated the Hot Springs Hotel and Brewery in southern Salt Lake Valley. So we will let you decide, was he a hero… or a villain?

You can find pieces of statuary and plaques in honor of Porter around the state of Utah. Some of these include Lehi, Bluffdale, his home that was moved to Eureka, and his burial place.

Because Porter Rockwell’s history spans the country it’s a lot to write out. Take a listen to our episode and enjoy some great resources we found for history on Porter Rockwell:

Legends of America.

Lehi, Utah city page.

Keith Veronese, Author of The Bad-Ass Mormon Gunslinger of the Wild West

Frank Kirkman Mountain Meadows Massacre Site

LDS Living Facts and stories you didn’t know about Porter Rockwell

Also former guest of the New Utah Podcast, Author David J. West, bases some of his books around Porter Rockwell!

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Infamous Utahn: Douglas Carter

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Our infamous Utahn for the month of June and episode 161, is not as well known as maybe a Ted Bundy or a Mark Hofman. However, Douglas Carter’s case has recently come back into the spotlight with his appeals process and new evidence.

We couldn’t find a lot of personal history in Douglas Carter. What we know is he was born in Chicago and made his way to Utah. In 1985 he was accused of committing the heinous crime of murdering Eva Olesen in Provo, Utah. Carter was convicted and put on death row after two witnesses claimed that he bragged to them about how Olesen was murdered. However, these witnesses disappeared for almost 20 years right before they were supposed to testify and right after his conviction! Not fishy, right?

Fast forward to March of 2019, yes just a couple months ago, and the news of a new appeal being fast tracked for Carter comes to light. Although he does already have a high spot in the appeals process, new information regarding the disappearing witnesses has now sparked interest for the 4th district court to review new evidence. Evidence? Did you know that Carter’s DNA was never found at the scene. There was physically no evidence tying him to the death of Eva. The murder happened in February and he wasn’t even suspect until April when his wife though her gun could have been the one used in the murder.

What is this new evidence? It is being reported that the Tovar’s who said that Carter told them what he did, was actually bribed by the Provo police department. With pay-off’s, Christmas gifts, rent being paid, etc. There is no new date set yet.

We have an ongoing conversation about the death penalty. What if Douglas really didn’t do it and he is put to death? What if he wins the appeals process and is put back into society? Can a person who has been in prison for 35+ years become a functioning member of society? Listen below to our conversation about Mr. Carter.

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Infamous Utahn: Mark Hofmann

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In episode 157 we delve deep into the workings of our infamous Utahn Mark Hofmann. Mr. Hofmann is an American counterfeiter, forger, and convicted murderer.

Born December 7th 1954 right here in Salt Lake City Utah Hofmann was raised LDS by two devoutly religious parents. Hofmann was a below-average student. Hofmann graduated from Olympus High School and went on to serve an LDS Mission.

His career in forgeries began early when as a youth he modified a penny to look like a rare 1959-D misprint penny with an estimated value of $25,000.

With a taste of success in his mouth and a little more ‘real world’ experience he went on to DARE WE SAY… FOOLED GOD HIMSELF.

As a collector and dealer in rare transcripts and documents Hoffman has access to material that would give him credence and put him in a position where no one would question him. Upon seeing the amount of money that could be made in his chosen profession Hoffman goes on to forge some of the most infamous documents in LDS history.

The Anthon Transcript. A document supposedly found by Hofmann in a 17th century King James Bible. The transcript was believed to be the unusual reformed Egyptian characters that were copied by Joseph Smith from the golden plates and used to translate the book of Mormon. This transcript was presented to Charles Anthon in 1828.

Joseph Smith III Blessing.  In 1981 Hoffman arrived at the headquarters of the LDS Church with a document which supposedly provided evidence that Joseph Smith had designated his son Joseph Smith III, rather than Brigham Young, as the next prophet and leader of the church.

Perhaps the most notorious of Hofmann Mormon forgeries was the Salamander Letter. Appearing in 1984 and supposedly written by Martin Harris to W.W. Phelps, the letter presented a version of the recovery of the gold plates that contrasted the church-sanctioned version of the events. Not only did it suggest that Smith had been practicing money digging through magical practice, but it also replaced the angel in Smiths account with a white Salamander. The LDS Church offered Hofmann more that $20,000 dollars in both money and rare historical items.

No one know for sure how many forged documents Hofmann created, but there are estimates ranging from dozens, to hundreds.  In October of 1985 things turn ugly for our Friendly Neighborhood Forger and with the prospect of being found out he makes and delivers (2) pipe bombs, killing Steve Christensen and Kathy Sheets. A third pipe bomb (meant for another victim) accidentally detonated in his car seriously injuring Hofmann and sending the police right to his (car) door.

Hofmann was arrested in January 1986 and charged on four indictments totaling 27 counts, including first-degree murder, delivering a bomb, constructing or possessing a bomb, theft by deception, and communication fraud. A fifth indictment, containing an additional five counts of theft by deception, was added later in January.

In 1988, before the Utah Board of Pardons, Hofmann said that he thought planting the bomb that killed Kathy Sheets was “almost a game … at the time I made the bomb, my thoughts were that it didn’t matter if it was Mrs. Sheets, a child, a dog … whoever” was killed. Within the hour the parole board, struck by Hofmann’s “callous disregard for human life,” decided that he would indeed serve his “natural life in prison.”

In December of 2015 Hofmann was transferred from the Draper prison to the Gunnison Facility where he will live out the remainder of his days.

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Infamous Utah: Gary Gilmore

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Although Gary Gilmore might not be considered a “serial killer” or even a prolific criminal, it is everything that happened after his killings in Orem and Provo, Utah that would cement his story in criminal history.

Gary was not born and raised in Utah, but his final days would be spent in the Utah State prison in the late 70’s. Born December 4th 1940 in Waco, Texas Gary’s life was already set on an unfortunate path. We wonder if he even had a chance as he started his life out with an alias right out the gate. The thing with these criminals is they are super smart and start their criminal history at a young age. Gary was already in a reform school at the age of 14 because of an auto theft. Fast forward another 6 years and he is in Oregon to at a correctional facility for larceny.

During these incarcerations we are wondered, was it just the time in our history that mental health help wasn’t offered to convicts? After being in and out of jail for the next 10 years from 1962 to 1972 for a number of crimes, this is where Gary was put on an anti-psychotic drug, Prolixin, and was finally transferred east to Illinois. Enter his time in Utah.

In 1976 he was transferred into the custody of his cousin, Brenda *who would be the person to turn in him*, which we can only speculate as an adult was because he was on anti-psychosis drugs? It wasn’t 4 months later that Gary went on his murder spree in Provo and Orem, Utah. It was a swift 4 months between his crimes and his conviction. Almost unheard of.

Time Magazine did a write up in 2015 about Gary’s execution. Gary said he wanted to die with dignity. You may be familiar with the Nike saying “just do it” this was a play off of some of the final words from Gilmore.

Gary’s murders and execution by the state of Utah in 1977 ended a nationwide moratorium on the death penalty that had lasted nearly 10 years. What else we found to be slightly frustrating is that Gary didn’t even fight his execution. He actually asked for it to happen swiftly. He even tried to commit suicide, but to no avail. Gary’s crimes, to conviction, to execution may be one of the swiftest cases in modern history. There have been songs such as 1977 The Adverts top 20 UK hit, “Gary Gilmore’s Eyes.” There were also books, and TV movies made about Gary. Murderpedia is one of our favorite resources to find this information. If you want to read more, Clark County Prosecutor.org has a great timeline on their website as well.

Stay tuned for our next Infamous Utah Criminal segment at the end of each month!

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Infamous Utah: Josh Powell

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We had Dave Cawley, the host of the Cold Podcast, join us for episode 147 and during that episode we decided to do our monthly feature on an infamous Utah criminal. Although Josh was never formally charged, with all the new things that Dave brought to light in his research about the Powell’s for the 18, in depth, episodes of the Cold Podcast we felt pretty confident adding Josh to our list.

December 2009, America became familiar with the name Josh Powell. Josh claimed that he had taken his boys camping on a snowy, winter evening in the west Utah desert and when they got back his wife, Susan, was missing from their West Valley, Utah home. It was the day care that alerted the authorities when their boys didn’t show up Monday morning for care. Over the next 3 years Josh, his father Steven, and his brother Michael would be questioned and under surveillance in hopes that there would be some information about Susan and her whereabouts. What husband move’s their kids out of state one month after their wife goes missing? Josh Powell, that’s who. As a viewing audience we only got a tiny glimpse into the insanity that was the Powell family through the news stories, and after Josh decided to take his life with his two boys in 2012, the story went quiet. It wasn’t until the last few months that Dave Cawley, the host of the Cold Podcast, gave murderino’s, family members, friends, and a community that felt the loss of Susan, a better glimpse into those three years after Susan Powell’s disappearance.

Through Dave’s passionate investigating we’ve learned that Josh was very smart. We learned that he was most likely planning to make Susan disappear but perhaps something happened and he had to make a rash decision which lead to the fateful December 2009 day. Josh treated Susan as a possession. He couldn’t hold a job, he took her money and bought completely unnecessary things. Josh covered things up well, including encrypting his own computer. He lied and created fake Facebook accounts to spy on people with his brother. He was a pawn to his own father Steve, and he kept his children like possessions, just like Susan grooming them, and so on.

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From the information that Dave uncovered, Susan knew that her husband would be her demise. From a last will and testament and conversations with friends. There have been endless searches into mine’s, old routes that Josh drove from Utah to Washington and sadly Susan, 10 years later, is still missing. Josh Powell, his brother, and his father all took to the grave what may have happened to Susan. Even though Josh may not have been charged with Susan’s disappearance, he is still a murderer by taking the lives of his own children. We can only follow Dave Cawley’s lead in pledging that we will keep an ear open for those who may be in a domestic abuse situation.

Photo: A Light in Dark Places Book by Jennifer Graves

Even though the Cold Podcast episodes on the Powell case is done, Dave and his team’s work isn’t. He continues to release information about the Powell case. Here is a great link to stories that accompany each episode of The Cold Podcast. You can follow them on their Facebook page for more information about the Powell case.

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Infamous Utah: Ted Bundy

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What can you write about serial killer Ted Bundy that hasn’t already been written over the past 30 years? For our new monthly segment, on an infamous Utah criminal, we wanted to focus on Ted’s time in Utah, the women that he killed and attempted to kill in Utah, and how Utah law enforcement played a massive part in bringing Ted Bundy down.

Did you know that Ted Bundy converted to Mormonism while he was here in Utah? Was it so he would have some sense of normalcy? Was it for an alibi? Local Utah researcher, Captain Borax True Crime Tours aka Chris Mortensen, interviewed Ted’s congregation members and “friends.” Chris has created a tour on YouTube of Ted’s steps and has done extensive research of his actions and steps throughout Utah. Ted was in and out of Utah over the course of a couple years and unfortunately 7 women, that we know of, fell victim. There was one or two that were able to get away, most notably Carol DaRonch who was 18 years old at the time. All you have to do is type into Google, Ted Bundy, and you can find plenty of information. There are numerous documentaries, old TV movies, the new Netflix series Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes, and so much more. We tried to research local Utah articles and information for our episode. For a little dip into Ted Bundy and how he got into the LDS church during his time in Utah, below is part 1 of 3 of Captain Borax True Crime Tours of Ted Bundy and the LDS church.

We asked ourselves at the end of the interview, should Ted have gotten the death penalty? Is him being a sociopath a mental illness? What would you have liked to have seen done with Ted Bundy? We can’t forget the local women, as well as the others, who were taken. We hope that through a resurgence of Ted right now because of the anniversary of his execution, the Sundance film, and Netflix documentary that the memory of these women and their families will not be forgotten.

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