Infamous Utahn: Hi-Fi Murders

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We wrapped up 2019 with one of the most recent brutal murders in Utah history. Which is weird to say after all the people we’ve covered this year. In Ogden, Utah on April 22, 1974 it was reported that two men entered the Hi-Fi stereo shop on Washington Blvd. and committed a series of atrocious crimes spanning 4 lengthy hours.

2 young employees, 20-year-old Stanley Walker and 18-year-old Sherry Ansley, were working. Courtney Naisbitt, a 16-year-old boy was also in the store. The men who entered the store had intentions to rob Hi-Fi but things turned quickly. When the parents of Naisbitt and Walker came unexpectedly, because neither showed up at home on time, it threw the robbers plans off. At this point, the goal would be to kill all that were witnesses to the crimes. Drain fluid. Rape. Murder. There was no good ending to this. After all the damage was done, the suspects fled and were later found. The suspects were stationed on Hill Air Force base and a fellow airman had remembered over hearing the men talking about ways to kill with draino while they were watching a movie, Magnum Force. Some of the killers personal items were also found by a dumpster. They weren’t the most organized robbers/killers.

When all was said and done, there were only two survivors Mr. Walker and Courtney Naisbitt. Both would live their lives with brain damage and all of the other ailments that come from being stomped, shot, and fed draino. Mr. Walker died in 2000 and Courtney in 2002.

To this day no one actually knows who had the idea, if there were other people involved, and if there were any other witnesses. This created racial tension in Ogden and a lot of profiling took place after this event. Selby Pierre was executed in 1987. William Andrews in 1992. And a third, Keith Roberts, who is said to possibly be the mastermind went free in 1987 after serving a 13 year sentence.

Some of the sources we used for this episode:

Standard Examiner article by Andreas Rivera / Ranker author Jessika Thomas broke down some of the facts / The Paranormal Guide– Hi-Fi Murders / AP article from 1987

Music By: Folk Hogan; Bootleggers Dance

Infamous Utahn John D Lee

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October’s infamous Utahn, is part of one of the darkest stains on Utah history, The Mountain Meadows Massacre. John D Lee was the only person that was held accountable for the deaths of the immigrants.

John D Lee was a loyal man. His loyalty and desire to serve and fit in with something would be his demise. Born in Kaskaskia, Illinois on September 12, 1812. John D Lee wouldn’t end up joining the Mormon church until he was 25. At that time he took the doctrine of plural marriage and had 19 wives, yes you heard that correct, 19 wives. During this time Lee would also join the Mormon Militia. We noticed that Lee had a lot of the childhood trauma that many of our other criminals have had; loss of a parent at a young age, alcoholic parent… Perhaps his loyalties came to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young because he didn’t have figures to look up to when he was younger? Lee helped with the western expansion of the Mormon’s into Utah.

Fast forward to Parley P. Pratt being murdered in Arkansas, Mormons thought he was a martyr and that this was more persecution, even though it was by the legal husband of one of Pratt’s wives. The space that Mountain Meadows Massacre took place was a fill up spot for travelers before traveling on to California. Stock piling for the long journey west. Word got out that an immigrant party by the name of the Baker-Fancher was going to be stopping there after leaving SLC. This is where Lee became the scapegoat. Militia members planned an attack, which included Paiute Indians who they told could take any provisions, on the Baker-Francher party. After promising the group they could leave without harm, the tides turned and the attacks started on the 7th of September 1857 and ended on September 11th with 120 men, women, and children over the age of 7 being slaughtered. Lee doing the final act. They buried them quickly, took their items, and the younger kids were given to local families. John D Lee would be the only one to stand trial.

Lee was quoted as saying to the Salt Lake Tribune, “ Lee. I am no traitor. I will never betray Brigham Young, as he was not there. Still I do not intend to any that others were not guilty, but Brigham Young sent messengers with dispatches to that place (the meadows) but all was over and it was too late.

From PBS.org, “Lee’s involvement in the massacre — the extent of which is still vigorously disputed and will probably never be known — was to haunt him for the next two decades, and would ultimately lead to his execution. He had written a letter to Brigham Young shortly after the massacre which laid the blame squarely on the Paiute Indians, but even among his own neighbors rumors of Lee’s guilt abounded. In 1858 a federal judge came to southwestern Utah to investigate the massacre and Lee’s part in it, but Lee went into hiding and local Mormons refused to cooperate with the investigation. Folk songs dating back to this year blamed Lee for the massacre. A warrant for his arrest remained outstanding.

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He found himself exiled and eventually executed. Listen to the episode below to hear what we have to say about this gross moment in Utah’s history.

From Famous Trials, ” The only wonder is that Lee, who was an intelligent man, would allow himself to be so often and so grossly deceived, and still repose confidence in his leaders. The answer to this is, that he had the utmost faith – a fanatical faith – in the truth of the Mormon religion, and believed that no other doctrine would enable him to attain immortality and future happiness.

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Mountain Meadows Massacre Monument Atlas Obscura. photo Mangoman88

Some of the resources that we used for this episode: Smithsonian Magazine/ PBS / Famous Trials / Mountain Meadows UNL edu / National Park Service

Music By: Folk Hogan; Bootleggers Dance

Episode 170 (Let’s NOT) Party with the Lafferty Brothers

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Episode 170 brings us to the end of another month and the return of our monthly segment of Infamous Utahn’s. We spent some time talking about the Lafferty Brother’s, Dan & Ron. They believed they were prophets of God (and even killed in the name of God) like you do. They wrote some scriptures and created an exclusive club just for prophets.

Jessica was stranded in paradise so Holly stepped in to lend a hand with the show. Chris and Bre adopted a new puppy, and the studio was nearly destroyed (or at least ruffled a bit). It’s HONEY time in the great state of Riverton. Jeremy was able to harvest 6.5 quarts of honey from his beehive this last weekend…and there was much rejoicing.

We try our hands at a little Utah Trivia, and we talk local Pizza.

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Infamous Utahn Orrin Porter Rockwell

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For our monthly segment on an infamous Utahn we decided to deep dive into Orrin Porter Rockwell. Hero to some, the Mormon’s bodyguard to Joseph Smith, and epitome of the Wild, Wild West.

Porters birth date is still not quite know with a guess of June 28, 1813 or June 25, 1815. He was born in Belchertown, Hampshire County, Massachusetts to Orin and Sarah Rockwell.  Died June 9, 1878 of natural causes in Salt Lake City, Utah and is buried in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

Believe it or not, Porters life did not consist solely of violent shoot-outs and he is not only remembered as a lawman. Rockwell was a noted guide and mountain man, and at one time operated the Hot Springs Hotel and Brewery in southern Salt Lake Valley. So we will let you decide, was he a hero… or a villain?

You can find pieces of statuary and plaques in honor of Porter around the state of Utah. Some of these include Lehi, Bluffdale, his home that was moved to Eureka, and his burial place.

Because Porter Rockwell’s history spans the country it’s a lot to write out. Take a listen to our episode and enjoy some great resources we found for history on Porter Rockwell:

Legends of America.

Lehi, Utah city page.

Keith Veronese, Author of The Bad-Ass Mormon Gunslinger of the Wild West

Frank Kirkman Mountain Meadows Massacre Site

LDS Living Facts and stories you didn’t know about Porter Rockwell

Also former guest of the New Utah Podcast, Author David J. West, bases some of his books around Porter Rockwell!

Music By: Folk Hogan; Bootleggers Dance

Infamous Utahn: Douglas Carter

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Our infamous Utahn for the month of June and episode 161, is not as well known as maybe a Ted Bundy or a Mark Hofman. However, Douglas Carter’s case has recently come back into the spotlight with his appeals process and new evidence.

We couldn’t find a lot of personal history in Douglas Carter. What we know is he was born in Chicago and made his way to Utah. In 1985 he was accused of committing the heinous crime of murdering Eva Olesen in Provo, Utah. Carter was convicted and put on death row after two witnesses claimed that he bragged to them about how Olesen was murdered. However, these witnesses disappeared for almost 20 years right before they were supposed to testify and right after his conviction! Not fishy, right?

Fast forward to March of 2019, yes just a couple months ago, and the news of a new appeal being fast tracked for Carter comes to light. Although he does already have a high spot in the appeals process, new information regarding the disappearing witnesses has now sparked interest for the 4th district court to review new evidence. Evidence? Did you know that Carter’s DNA was never found at the scene. There was physically no evidence tying him to the death of Eva. The murder happened in February and he wasn’t even suspect until April when his wife though her gun could have been the one used in the murder.

What is this new evidence? It is being reported that the Tovar’s who said that Carter told them what he did, was actually bribed by the Provo police department. With pay-off’s, Christmas gifts, rent being paid, etc. There is no new date set yet.

We have an ongoing conversation about the death penalty. What if Douglas really didn’t do it and he is put to death? What if he wins the appeals process and is put back into society? Can a person who has been in prison for 35+ years become a functioning member of society? Listen below to our conversation about Mr. Carter.

Music By: Folk Hogan; Bootleggers Dance

Episode 153 The Bees are Coming… and so is the Queen!

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**Update as of this post being live** The bees did not arrive this past weekend. Weather delayed them.

Episode 153 we had bee chat. Getting new bees. Birds and the bees. Honey. All the things. It was also our monthly segment of an infamous Utah criminal. This month we decided to pick Gary Gilmore. Stay tuned for our recap!

We brought it up quite a while ago, but the Kennecott Visitor Center is now re-opened after a landslide in the mine several years ago.

Speaking of awesome Utah events, there is plenty to do this coming up weekend (10-12th of May) with the 150th celebration of the Transcontinental Railroad. Salt Lake Magazine has a great issue “New West-Old West” on stands. Editor Mary Malouf wrote a beautiful, heart-felt letter from the editor on our strong connection to our past here in Utah. Salt Lake Tribune has a listing of all the places you can enjoy the celebrations this week!

Test Run of the Big Boy in Cheyenne May 2, 2019 @RioGrandeFan

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Infamous Utah: Gary Gilmore

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Although Gary Gilmore might not be considered a “serial killer” or even a prolific criminal, it is everything that happened after his killings in Orem and Provo, Utah that would cement his story in criminal history.

Gary was not born and raised in Utah, but his final days would be spent in the Utah State prison in the late 70’s. Born December 4th 1940 in Waco, Texas Gary’s life was already set on an unfortunate path. We wonder if he even had a chance as he started his life out with an alias right out the gate. The thing with these criminals is they are super smart and start their criminal history at a young age. Gary was already in a reform school at the age of 14 because of an auto theft. Fast forward another 6 years and he is in Oregon to at a correctional facility for larceny.

During these incarcerations we are wondered, was it just the time in our history that mental health help wasn’t offered to convicts? After being in and out of jail for the next 10 years from 1962 to 1972 for a number of crimes, this is where Gary was put on an anti-psychotic drug, Prolixin, and was finally transferred east to Illinois. Enter his time in Utah.

In 1976 he was transferred into the custody of his cousin, Brenda *who would be the person to turn in him*, which we can only speculate as an adult was because he was on anti-psychosis drugs? It wasn’t 4 months later that Gary went on his murder spree in Provo and Orem, Utah. It was a swift 4 months between his crimes and his conviction. Almost unheard of.

Time Magazine did a write up in 2015 about Gary’s execution. Gary said he wanted to die with dignity. You may be familiar with the Nike saying “just do it” this was a play off of some of the final words from Gilmore.

Gary’s murders and execution by the state of Utah in 1977 ended a nationwide moratorium on the death penalty that had lasted nearly 10 years. What else we found to be slightly frustrating is that Gary didn’t even fight his execution. He actually asked for it to happen swiftly. He even tried to commit suicide, but to no avail. Gary’s crimes, to conviction, to execution may be one of the swiftest cases in modern history. There have been songs such as 1977 The Adverts top 20 UK hit, “Gary Gilmore’s Eyes.” There were also books, and TV movies made about Gary. Murderpedia is one of our favorite resources to find this information. If you want to read more, Clark County Prosecutor.org has a great timeline on their website as well.

Stay tuned for our next Infamous Utah Criminal segment at the end of each month!

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