Episode 278 – Cooking with Carmie

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It’s Bre again!  We started this episode talking about cold barbeques, harvesting and FanX.  Jeremy decided to throw a last HURRAH barbeque before Fall and the wedding.  While he may be beat the wedding date deadline, Fall beat him.  The day started off okay, but it was sweater and fire pit weather by the end.  Because of this cold weather, it’s time to harvest or you’d better be covering your crop.  The temperatures are already dipping below freezing!  Lastly, FanX was underwhelming.  I’m not sad we went but unlike most years, we didn’t stay for full days and took breaks where we came all the way back home.  We ended up not even going on Saturday because running errands sounded like more fun.  I think FanX needs to start rethinking their panels and their presenters.  It was fun to see the artists and authors and we came home with a haul!

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Carmella Anderson from Carmella’s Cuisine is our guest interview, and we were so extra-excited because she showed up with yummy cheese, crackers, and fruit for us all to dine on.  You all know how much I love to eat on the show, but Chris wouldn’t let me, so we enjoyed an after-interview with Carmie, and her husband while chowing down on the good eats.

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Carmie was born in Toledo, Ohio.  She comes by cooking naturally as her parents managed food services in country clubs.  After that her family lived above a tavern in Chicago that they owned and operated.  As part of an exchange program, Carmie studied in France and has gone back since to study cooking.  She has taken cooking classes all over Europe but has never officially gone to school for cooking.  While it sounds like Carmie might have had a professional catering business most of her life she wasn’t able to start her own business until quite a bit later. 

Carmie and her husband moved to Utah to help take care of her husband’s grandfather but it’s not professional catering time yet.  She and her husband hand a handicapped child that kept them busy and it wasn’t until that child moved into a group home that Carmie took official steps to start her own business.  Until then, she had been catering for friends and family at cost and already knew she loved it. 

Chef Carmie has a passion for cooking and a dream and ran with it.  Some of her first official business was a Delta Airlines contract that she took over from someone else.  Doing that forced her to get her license and find a commercial kitchen.  When the owner of her commissary decided to sell the building, Carmie started looking for a new kitchen and finally found a home in Riverton.  It was leased to her as a working kitchen, but the prior tenant had been forced out and left behind not only a mess, but a kitchen that didn’t meet the city regulations.  So, while still working in her first commissary, they started preparing the new kitchen for business.  Her landlord forgave rent for few months while they renovated since the upgrades made the building more valuable!

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So, why catering instead of truck or restaurant?  Carmie tells us she loves to be a creative cook and the idea of doing the same menu over and over was not appealing.  She loves to create beautiful means that are also tasty. 

In addition to the catering, you can order meals to eat at home from her website.  Orders are placed by Sunday evening and picked up on Tuesday. She can customize meals for gluten free, dairy free, and just about everything under the sun.  She doesn’t see her work as just a job.

Carmie tells us about how she survived COVID shut down, what kinds of meals she prepares and the strange requests some folks make.  She tells us about her favorite foods to make and eat and how loving her work helps her through the tough times.

Chef Carmie tells us that having grown up in Chicago and having travelled a lot, she loves Utah because you can find anything.  There is a variety of entertainment and landscape.  She finds Utah to be well-rounded and wouldn’t dream of calling anywhere else home.  You can find her on

Most interesting/unique thing:  Having grown up in Chicago and travelled quite a bit.  You can find anything in Utah, entertainment, landscape, well-rounded place.  Once you’ve been here and seen Utah, it has everything.

You can find Carmella on Instagram @carmellascuisine, on Facebook under Carmella’s Cuisine and online at www.carmellascuisuse.com. Go enjoy this episode and some of her great cooking!

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Episode 272 – Utah Apocalypse

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We started off this episode by discussing the apocalyptic air here in Utah.  The smoke from all the fires isn’t great anywhere in the state but we win for having the worst air in the world because the smoke, combined with our ‘bowl’, has made it so you can’t see the mountains until you’re on top of them!  If you are listening to this on or around the release date of 8/11/2021, it’s almost exactly two months to the wedding.  We are dedicating a whole episode to talking about our adventure on Kauai since the entire podcast crew will be there!  Jeremy reports that school is starting in a few weeks and that this is Hannah’s last year, but that girl is already on the fast track to her career.  Jeremy doesn’t raise fools!  We don’t do it often enough, but we want to thank Folk Hogan for our intro and outro music.  Both them and Nick Passey and the Perpetual Sadness are performing again so go and support them!

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Born and raised in Kansas, this week’s interview is with CEO and co-founder of Cold Case Coalition, Karra Porter.   Karra’s paying job is as an attorney but that’s not what she wanted to be as a kid.  Karra wanted to be a journalist.  Instead, her mom insisted she got to law school and so she headed to Texas to get her degree.   She started out as a defense lawyer and made mid-career switch to constitutional law.  In fact, Karra represented Alex Wubbels, the University of Utah nurse who refused to draw blood on an unconscious patient because they had no reason to.  Karra landed in Utah to help her mom with some genealogy.  She ended up falling in love with her job/firm and Utah and has no plans to leave.  In fact, much of her family now lives here, too.

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The Coalition started when the family of Rosie Tapia, whose murder has not been solved, approached Karra because of her exposure during the Wubbels case.  Salt Lake City police agreed to a meeting with Karra and the family and Karra asked what they could do to help the police with the case.  The police said they needed publicity for tips/leads.  The Coalition uses a private investigator, a journalist, and many other volunteers to help families with unsolved murders, missing persons cases and unidentified human remains.  There are about 250,000 cold cases in the US and about 450 of those cases are in Utah.  Many witnesses don’t like to talk to the police but are willing to speak to the Coalition. 

Utah statutes state that a case is cold after three years with no movement or new leads.  One of the things the Coalition started in 2017 was a database for cold cases.  Karra worked with the Utah State Legislature to pass a bill to start it.  The coalition met with law enforcement to help make the database a valuable asset that can be used to cross reference many different facts about cases and has become a useful tool for law enforcement.

One of the newer things the Coalition has started is a non-profit lab.  Along with families who can’t afford private labs, the Coalition was spending a lot of money to have evidence tested and so they started their own.  Their lab has solved five or six cases that Karra wasn’t able to.  There have been some instances where cases were reclassified because evidence was found that reopened a case and proved that it was not solved.  The lab has tested a Barbie Doll in the Rose Tapia case that may have produced some new leads.

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The Coalition offers a reward on cold cases and currently Utah is the only state who does it.  These funds are not provided through tax dollars.  Donations of equipment have been made, one such thing is an underwater drone and ground penetrating radar.  They also do a lot of magnet fishing and a cadaver dog.  In fact, the Coalition sometimes reaches out to the suspects when warranted. 

In a twist of irony, during COVID Karra bid on and purchased an abandoned storage unit in Ogden.  As she and her brother went through it for anything of value, her brother found evidence of a cold case.  The woman who wrote about the triple murder, is still alive and living in another state.  The strange this was that the items in the storage unit had been stolen from her.  Seems that Karra tends to be in the right places at the right time.

Because the Coalition is completely run by volunteers, please to their website and Get Involved. They needs folks to help with reviewing state archives, performing surveillance, copying court papers, creating timeline, and so many other things.  You can also make donations through the website.   Find them on Facebook under Utah Cold Case Coalition or email them at coldcasedoalition@gmail.com.

Karra says the most Interesting/Unique thing about Utah is how reasonable it is.  Utah’s new slogan, “Our legislature is not that evil.”  Karra also notes that since there are no chiggers here, that is a huge plus!

August is Cold Case Month so check out the Coalition and volunteer and donate if you can.

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