Episode 299 – The Metaphysical

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Hello loyal followers & patrons, this is Jeremy giving you the synopsis of this weeks exciting Podcast. We start out discussing this year’s super bowl, it was a close game, and the halftime show was one of the best… EVER. Julia got a new car to replace the one she destroyed. We all decided that we spent way too much time together recently AND Bre gives us the 411 on how messed up women’s health is.

This week we interviewed Julia and her shop the Pleiadian Alter. (You can see her bio at the end of this article). We have actually interviewed Julia the person, about a year ago so if you want to know more about her (when she was born, where she was raised, etc.) go check out episode 253 Cleany Wipey Things

In this interview we get the lowdown on why, how, and what the name of her shop is and means. Most people can’t say or spell Pleiadian, but it does have significant meaning. Julia has been interested in art from a young age (she gets that from her father) She was also raised in an entrepreneurial atmosphere. From mowing lawns, to planting gardens, and raising chickens, the Gates family has always had a more self-sufficient attitude towards life in general.

Julia began doing art commissions around 13 years old and arts and crafts her entire life. In June of last year (2021) she started her business which is an eclectic collection of crystals, herbs, rocks, spell jars, and her own personal sellable art.

Julia is the owner of The Pleiadian Altar, which is an ethically sourced metaphysical pop-up shop with an emphasis on community education to reduce the stigma around witchcraft.  She offers a wide variety of fair trade products including crystals, handmade spell jars, organic body care, and alternatives to closed practices such as white sage.  Julia first created the shop as an income-producing outlet for her artistic abilities. Now she regularly teaches spell jar classes and is gearing up to host workshops for anyone who would like to learn more about witchcraft.  

You can visit her at one of her markets throughout the valley or shop her website and Etsy.  (Use the code UTAHWITCH for 10% off!)

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Episode 298 – Memories in Utero

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Hey everyone, this is Jeremy! This week we start out the episode talking about Julias car issues. Her car went down in a noble ball of flames (well not exactly) but that conversation quickly turned into a rant about bad drivers and parking lots. On a happy note, the voting is in for naming the Salt Lake City Snowplows. The Winners are

  • Sled Zeppelin
  • Flake Effect
  • Snowy McSnowFace
  • Rudy Snobert
  • Jon Bon Snowvi
  • The Notorious P.L.O.W.
  • Ice Eccles
  • Snowbi Wan Kenobi
  • No More Mr. Ice Guy
  • Sugar Plows

 When the snowplows are out you can track them on the new Snowplow GPS Tracking web site.

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I am personally excited to announce that Salt City Home Designs won for this year’s Best of 2022 Local Business for Riverton. Thank you to those of you who voted for Salt City Home Designs it means a lot to me.

This week we are honored to chat with Morgan Thomas, a musician, and wood carver from Morgan Utah.

Photo: morganthomasmusic.com

Morgan was borne in Ogden, Utah moved to Provo, then Eagle Mountain, and ended up back North in Kaysville. Morgan was involved with several bands through high school and after going through his ‘Heavy Metal’ phase he decided to pursue the Folk Acoustic music genre. Often being compared to Mumford and Sons (who may or may not have stolen Morgans style) … Morgan says, ‘they are probably the best way to describe his style’.

Morgan spent some time doing sound mixing after high school, he recounts a funny story where he had to set up for Folk Hogan and one other similar band on the same night. With 5-8 members of the bands, and a barrage of non-traditional instruments (mandolins, accordions, violins, etc.) Morgan was baptized by fire, but it was the hardest sound mixing gig he ever did.

Morgan decided soon after that he wanted to be the one on the stage. He started teaching guitar lessons and playing solo as well as joining forces with other bands. He played bars, clubs, festivals, and even started doing some touring. Unfortunately, COVID put a huge dent in his plans (as it did so many people). Morgan took the down time to try a few different things and discovered the joy of wood carving. He was part of the Tooele County Renaissance Fare last year and sold his wood gnomes. He plans on being part of the Fair again this year, so you will have a chance to buy one of these cool carving in October.

Photo: @morganthomsmusic (Instagram)

Morgan talks about post covid, moving to Morgan City, Utah and continuing to pursue his love of music. Morgan is still teaching guitar (so look him up for lessons) and he ended our interview with some live music. You will really want to listen to the episode for that.

Morgan can be found at the following sites.

https://www.instagram.com/morganthomasmusic/

https://morganthomasmusic.com/

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Episode 297 – Salt City Barbecue

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Jeremy is still recovering from covid. It seems to have completely put him down, with 5 days in bed, and still trying to recover, we have him join us remotely for this show and Julia is off on another fun trip. Bre tells us about the death of her biological father, and recounts the funeral and amazing new found family she has.

The bulk of the show is devoted to our guest though, Rusty Monson, the owner of Salt City Barbecue. He is also cohost on The Pitmasters Podcast. We get to talk a ton about his business, but before that we hear more about his life. Being our age, we all wax poetic about the awesome 80s and 90s in the Salt Lake area. I’m real happy because we get to nerd out on Magic The Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons with Rusty.

In talking with Rusty we find out how much he really does love his cooking and his state. He wants Utah to become a place people can find truly amazing barbeque even if that isn’t really the case right now. What he won’t say about the other locals, the hosts of the show don’t back off from. While Utah has an amazing food scene, barbeque is one area we don’t have a large selection of, and are certainly not known for. Rusty wants to change all of that.

Rusty started doing competition barbeque, before deciding to open his own catering business and food truck. Now the truck can be found wandering the Salt Lake Valley and delivering amazing nachos to everyone. Long term the dream is to open up a great brick and mortar restaurant and teach everyone who wants to know how to make good barbeque.

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Episode 296 – A Raft of Otters

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Utah Adventure Week – Loveland Living Planet Aquarium

This week Julia announces that she’s added an event calendar to her website for The Pleiadian Altar.  Take a few minutes and find out where she’ll be hocking her wares!  Black Rabbit Studios sends us our promised gifts.  We’re going to spread the love by putting some on our travelling suitcase and sharing the wealth between the four of us.

This week we are starting a new monthly spotlight.  After some on-episode discussion, it will be called the Utah Weekly Adventure.  We start off our tourn at the Loveland Living Planet Aquarium

You know where it is, just on the west side of I15 at 120the South. Do you know why you know?  Because instead of allowing U2 to scrap their stage from their 360 Tour, they are now using it as part of the Aquarium’s educational area.

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The Loveland Living Planet Aquarium was started in 1997 by Brent Anderson, a marine biologist and Utah native.  He started with a mobile educational marine exhibit in 199 and opened the 10,000 square foot location at the Gateway Mall in 2004.  This enabled Anderson to raise funds and to garner interest in the endeavor.  They had over 300,000 visitors in the first two years and quickly outgrew their space.  In June of 2006, the moved to their space in Sandy, which was over 43,000 square feet and soon had over 460,000 visitors each year.  Finally in 2010, they purchased 17 acres of land and raised $27 million to build the Aquarium in its permeant home, Draper.  Currently the Aquarium is 136,000 square feet and was opened in March of 2014 and saw over one million visitors in the first year.

There are five areas to visit at the Aquarium so I’m going to give a little overview of the order we saw each of them:

  1. Journey to South America.  Our first impression was of the climate control.  It was humid and warm inside to mimic weather for the animals and plants living inside.  We saw the electric eel, a sloth, porcupine, toucan, poisonous frogs, and empty butterfly exhibit.  It was really cool to see the indigenous plants that were included with identification signs.  Julia confessed that she used to be afraid of the river monster fish and was terrified that she might fall into the tank.
Loveland Living Planet Aquarium
  • Penguin Research Station.  When we arrived, they were feeding the penguins and talking about how they take care of them.  Each penguin is labeled so they can monitor their food intake and the lights and temperature in the enclosure are controlled to imitate their natural environment (Sub-Antarctic islands).  The lights go up and down according to what would be happening in the wild.  Many of the penguins at the Aquarium were actually born there and you can read a little bit about each of them. 
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  • Expedition: Asia. There are two clouded leopards in this exhibit; however, we were only able to see one for a short time.  What a treat that was though!  There were a lot of giant and colorful fish!
Loveland Living Planet Aquarium
  • Discover Utah.  We have determined that Utah has boring fish, but you can see the brine shrimp in this exhibit.  This is also where we saw the otters come out to have a little food stimulated learning and an active beehive.  Utah is a beautiful place and watching the otters play was one of the highlights of our day.
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  • Ocean Explorer:  This exhibit has a place where you can touch sea urchins, star fish, sea cucumbers, and anemones. They also have a stingray pond where you can reach out and pet them!  This is where we saw the seahorses and dragons, the giant octopus, giant clam, and the giant lobster, along with bioluminescent fish. There is a really cool shark tank with a tunnel you can walk through so you are surrounded by the beautiful creatures.  Just outside the tunnel is a show area where you can see the same tank from the side.
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You can buy a membership, eat there and when it opens again, they have a 4D theater.  They offer shark yoga, nature storytime and youth camps.  You can rent the Aquarium for private events like weddings, proposals, and family parties.  Both indoor and outdoor spaces are available and there are times when you can rent out the entire Aquarium.  Additionally, the Aquarium is in the process of adding on hands on learning as well as science labs.  (Chris may have a recording of this information)

We loved this episode and our first adventure.  Join us next month as we continue to explore Utah for ourselves!

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Episode 295 – Floppy Fries

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Hello all you fabulous listeners!!!

We are recording on Skype this week because Julia is negative for COVID but then positive twice but then negative again.  She’s feeling better but home recovering and avoiding giving it to us since we’ll never be sure if she has/had COVID!

The Utah State Legislature began on the 18th.  We talk about how important it is to know what is happening up on the hill and to contact your legislator if you something is important to you.  Please go to www.le.utah.gov  for bill tracking, to find out who your representatives are and to listen to committee discussions.

We know you’ve been waiting for it, so here it is, the first part of our City Weekly Best Of review!  In this weeks episode, we go over the Food & Drink and the Restaurants categories.  We are shocked that The Pie didn’t win for Best Pizza or even Best Pizza in Ogden but excited that Fresh Donuts & Deli is on the board for Best Donuts.  Our wonderful friends at Ruby Snap beat Crumbl for Best Cookies and of course, Pretty Bird, FTW under Best Chicken Sandwich.  Chef Adalberto pulls out a couple secondary positions under Best Bakery and Best Dessert for Fillings and Emulsions but we know he should be #1!  Guras Spice House is overlooked for Best Indian Restaurant again but now that Jeremy has been to La Caille, we know it’s a real place to go and eat.  Surprisingly, between the podcast crew, we’ve been to all the winners in Best French Restaurant.  Chris is thrilled with Sunday’s Best, Best Restaurant Brunch win but we’re not going to Takashi until their dining room opens, no matter how many categories they win.

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Food’s Ultimate Resource, Spoonthumbs

Don’t worry, we didn’t miss pulling a Tarot Card this week and it tells us to listen to our little voices . . .

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Episode 292 – Utah Copper

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This is TNUP’s last episode of 2021.  We’re so excited for 2022.  For 2022 instead of just researching the amazing places in Utah, we’ll be visiting some of them.  We’ll record a bit, take some pictures, and then come back to the show to tell you about our adventure.

We open the show this week by talking about football bowl cancellations due to COVID concerns. As of our recording, the Hawai’i Bowl, Military Bowl, Holiday Bowl, Fenway Bowl, and the Arizona Bowl.  As of this writing, the Rose Bowl will be played. Go Utes!  Along with that a small shout-out to Tom Barberi, who passed away on Christmas Eve.  He was a staple in the Utah media and will be missed.

Bre and Chris talk about their successful delivery of Sub for Santa gifts and a successful mouse trapping.  So far there are no signs of a second mouse.  Fingers crossed we don’t end up with a mouse infestation similar to Jeremy’s rats!

Salt Lake City Tours – Copper Mine of Utah Tour

This week we talk about the Kennecott Utah Copper Mine or the Bingham Canyon Mine, the largest man-made excavation and deepest open pit mine in the world.  Currently the mine is owned by Rio Tinto Group (a British-Australian multinational corporation).  In the episode, we talk about the ore discovery in 1848 by Sanford and Thomas Bingham (whom the canyon and mine were originally named after) and the many iterations of owners the mine has had since its opening in 1863.  While the mine brought much work and prosperity to Utah, it’s become a blight to the west bench that managed to literally bury entire cities.

Aerial view of the mine by John Couture

The mine does not just produce approximately 300,000 short tons of copper annually but also, 400,000 troy ounces of gold, 4,000,000 troy ounces of silver and about 10,000 short tons of molybdenum.  While I think everyone has heard of copper, silver, and gold, none of us had heard of molybdenum, a metal that is ductile and highly resistant to corrosion.  It also has one of the highest melting points of all pure elements.  We also found out the molybdenum is a micronutrient that is essential for life but can be poisonous when you are overexposed.  (Don’t say we never taught you anything)

We also talk about the huge equipment needed to undertake this type of mining.  One shovelful from a bucket holds more than 100 tons of material and it takes about three scoops to fill the 320-ton haul trucks used in the mine.  The electrical shovels are six-stories high, and the average haul truck is 24 feet high with six tires more than 12 ½ feet tall.  Each of the tires lasts about nine months and when the truck is fully loaded, it weighs more than 1,100,000 pounds.

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In addition to burying entire towns, we talk about Daybreak being built on top of old tailing ponds.  In 1990, homes that that been built on former flood plains were discovered to be contaminated with high levels of lead and arsenic.  In its history, smelters caused sulfur dioxide gas emissions that significantly damaged neighboring crops and have had at least 25 chemical spills since 1989.

When Rio Tinto purchased the mine in 1989, they modernized the mine, mill, and the smelter.  They also replace the railroad with conveyor belts and pipelines for transporting both ore and waste.  We discuss the landslides and that the pit can be seen with the naked eye from outer space!!!

NASA – view of the mine from space

The Bigham Canyon Open Pit Copper Mine is on the list of National Historic Landmarks.  We talked about the visitors’ center being open on the episode, but it is still closed due to COVID restrictions.  You can take a virtual tour on their website.

Chris puts us all on the spot about our favorite episode of year but I’m the only one caught unaware and unprepared, as is the yoozh.  He also tells us about his company’s impromptu Christmas party where is boss is like Oprah, “You get a prize! And you get a prize! And you get a prize!!!”

We hope you have a great new year, and we’ll see ya on the flip side!

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Episode 291 – HotDog-Water.com

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Hello friends, happy holidays, merry Christmas, happy Chanukah, happy Kwanzaa, happy solstice, whatever you celebrate have a good one! We are down to the wire and the holiday shopping is getting to Chris just a bit. The show begins with a good ol’ fashion bitch session about crazy shoppers and their not so good parking, driving, and shopping habits. Chris and his workplace are involved in a cool sub for Santa program this year. Bre tells the amusing story of her very religious co-worker winning the ultimate booze basket at work. Julia and her business was featured in Voyage Magazine (congratulations Julia)

Meet Juila Gates of The Pleiadian Altar

This week we have the privilege of sitting down with the president of the Tooele County Arts Guld, Katrina Flores

Photo: Teele Transcript Bulletin

Katrina was born in the majestic town of Magna Utah, but at a young age moved with her family to Stansbury Park, Utah (a subdivision just outside of old town Tooele). Katrina grew up surrounded by art, she loved to draw, doodle, and paint. Seeing her potential Katrinas mother signed her up for art lessons and the magic grew from there. Katrina and her husband Hudson have a deep-rooted love of all things art, and a few years ago they started Black Rabbit Studios

“Black Rabbit Studios is Hudson and Katrina’s home-based art studio where art lovers can go to learn, practice, and improve their skills in the arts.” 

Fast forward to 2019 Katrina began attending the Tooele Arts Guild and was very quickly seen for her talents. By the end of the year, she was nominated as president of the guild.

Katrina was thrilled to begin implementing new ideas, new classes, and events, BUT the Covid-19 pandemic slammed the breaks on everything for the newly appointed president. Throughout the covid lockdown Katrina stayed positive and implemented virtual classes, meeting, and art lectures for the guild. During this time the guild discussed what they could do when the world started going back to normal and decided the best way to celebrate would be to hold Tooele County’s first Renaissance Themed arts festival.

The fair was held the first weekend of October and it was an amazing success. The event included shopping, thousands of unique items, and art. Local food trucks, live entertainment, bagpipers, bird shows, and fire performers to name a few things. 

Due to the success of the October event the Guild has just announced the dates for next year’s Guild Faire (September 30th & October 1st, 2022) Friday, 3pm – 9pm & Saturday 11 am – 6pm.

This was a great interview, and we really hope you take the time to listen to it and help support Katrina and her efforts with the Tooele County Arts Guild. All are welcome to attend the meetings and events. Tell Katrina you heard about her on the New Utah Podcast, and she might even make you the honorary guild secretary.

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Episode 290 – Utah Ugandan

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This episode we find out Chris and Bre likely have a mouse in the house. We also get a full recap on the annual ugly sweater competition and the white elephant gifts that ensued. This may become an annual recap, who knows. Lastly before our amazing guest, Julia tells us about getting suckered into a time share on her vacation. It took about 2 seconds before Chris called what it was, and the team listens and gives advice on time share purchases.

The meat of the episode though, is our discussion with Jermain Magandazi, a Ugandan immigrant to Utah, and the owner of Bombini’s Own a local Utah business, specializing in candles, lip balm, perfume and other locally sourced care products.

We get to dive deep into his story in our discussion. Growing up in Uganda with his Aunt, and then moving to the UK, and finally making it to America. At age 11, he essentially met his parents for the first time in his life. They had spent all that time setting up a proper life for their children here in America.

Of course we get to have a long conversations about the different things he thought of and experienced moving from place to place with such big culture differences. We hear about the first thing he ate in America, and you will be surprised by the reaction.

He came to Utah for college, attending the University of Utah. He talks about how he started the business, on a whim, because he was tired of always having to replace lip balms he lost. So he learned how to make them, testing on his friends. Eventually someone told him to sell them and next thing you know he has an Etsy shop, an Amazon store and now a Brick and Mortar location at 7700 Maple Street in Midvale, Utah.

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Episode 288 – Dog Training

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In this episode, Chris is a fan of the FAUCI Act, though still not a fan of Chris Stewart. The Gates Thanksgiving dinner was very prayerful if a little less than tasty. However, they made the most of the long weekend by doing a little rock hounding. They discovered Wonder Stone Quarry and found rocks that are only in Utah and Nevada. Chris and Bre spent a quiet, low-stress weekend eating Turkey and decorating for Christmas.

We were so excited to finally sit down with Robyn Carlson from Kudos 2 Canines. You’ve heard us talk about Robyn and Kudos on many earlier episodes. Robyn was born in Salt Lake City but had a restless, single mom who moved them around a lot. First doe the Fairview area, onto Corpus Christi, Texas, back to Utah, then to Montana and back to Utah.

Robyn Carlson, Kudos 2 Canines

Robyn has always been drawn to and had dogs. In high school she started volunteering with Furburbia and No More Homeless Pets. After high school, she moved to North Carolina to nanny. While in NC she also worked at the SPCA. Robyn’s boyfriend (now husband) was here in Utah so when she came back to him, she started back at Furburbia and worked as a liaison with the Humane Society. She found a love for the rescue side of pets but also found it can be exhausting. Robyn then moved into the vet world and all the way up to head surg tech with the Humane Society.

While pregnant with her first child and she ran into a trainer friend at PetSmart. They were hiring and Robyn found her love in pet education. She had never been a trainer before but worked her way up to Area Trainer for Utah PetSmart’s and did that for about seven years. Robyn loved what she did but not where she was doing it.

In 2012 she made new year’s resolution to start her own business and she opened the early version of Kudos 2 Canines in February of 2013. Her inspiration for the change, her now 14-year-old Bernese Mountain Dog, Tucker. Robyn often refers to Tucker as her partner and he is the logo and the official mascot for K2C. Tucker gave her the confidence to dot the job. He has worked as a therapy and service dog and have won many awards together.

Tucker, Kudos 2 Canines

Robyn’s business started as a travelling group training. She rented rooms in rec centers, a CrossFit gym and even held classes in driveways. She was then able to open her first training center in South Salt Lake. A location they outgrew almost before they moved in. The were there for two years before moving to their current location, which they have now outgrown. Robyn and K2C just closed on a new place, near to the first location, and they will own this building.

Compared to other doggie day camps, K2C is not a free for all. Robyn and her staff of trainers lead a structured day where dogs get to play but also get to learn. In addition, K2C takes breeds that other training facilities may not. They also take puppies after their second round of shots and pups don’t need to be spayed or neutered to attend. During COVID, folks decided to get dogs and those dogs needed training. K2C started to get away from their core values: education. So about six months ago, she and her staff decided to limit their class sizes to 20-30 dogs a day, to require education in order to attend day camps and pups can get more one-on-one training. K2C also does ‘out and about’ classes where the dogs go on field trips and group classes go out into the real world to help dogs get along in public.

You are your pets best advocate and K2C can help you both learn how to work best together. Also, if you are fostering dogs, Kudos offers discounts on classes and day camp. Robyn built her business on word of mouth and recognition because she truly believes in the work she and her staff do. They have won awards and are growing by leaps and bounds. Starting in January their new location is 55 E Miller Avenue in South Salt Lake. The new facility will enable Robyn to continue expanding on her dream. They will have space for a pool and plan to be a one stop shop for training, grooming and specialties, along.

Please listen to the episode to learn more about Robyn’s favorite dogs, her plans for Kudos 2 Canines future and how to take care of your doggo. Visit them at www.kudos2canines.com for more information about training and classes. They also have a massive Facebook presence with many groups set up for special projects they do. We love this organization, and they give back to the community so go and support them.

Chris forgot to ask Robyn our signature question but at the beginning of the interview she talks about Utah’s landscape. She mentions mountains to the north and red rocks to the south. This is a tried-and-true answer that never gets old because it’s true, Utah landscape is AMAZING!

Unfortunately, this episode ends on a sad note. Many of you may already know this if you follow Jessica on social media (yes, former host, Jessica), but her father passed away Thanksgiving weekend. Jessica’s father spent the last week of his life in the hospital, so she has organized a GoFundMe for her stepmother in order to help with expenses. If you can, please go donate to the fund.  You can follow the link or find it by searching for Dan Richardson End of Life ICU Expenses.

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Episode 287 – Dugway

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Hey everyone, it’s Jeremy here and this is the last podcast week of November, so ya’ll know what that means…Historically Significant Utah! The gang is short Julia this week because she headed out early to start her Thanksgiving shenanigans. Chris and Bre went to the Alton Brown show (I’m actually quite jealous) and afterwards they ate at the new Pretty Bird location. Go back a few years and you can listen to our interview with Chef Viet at the grand opening of Pretty Bird. Jeremy and Julia went to the Herriman Holiday Market, and we encourage everyone to shop local this holiday season.

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This month we went down a deep rabbit hole and discussed the infamous Dugway Proving Grounds located 85 miles southwest of Salt Lake City. Dugway Proving Ground is where the Army develops and tests biological and chemical weapons, tactics, and defenses, what are often called NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) hazards. DPG was established in 1942, shortly after the US was suddenly drawn into World War II. The Great Salt Lake Desert was an excellent location for this weapons development, being remote, thinly populated, and easy to secure.

In March 1968, 6249 sheep died in Skull Valley, an area only 30 miles from the Dugway testing site. The sheep were found to have been poisoned by a never agent ‘VX’ that had been developed at the proving grounds. The official claim was for 4,372 “disabled” sheep, of which about 2,150 were killed outright by the VX exposure. Another 1,877 sheep were “temporarily” injured or showed no signs of injury and but not marketable due to their potential exposure and put down by veterinarians.

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From 1985 to 1991, Dugway Proving Ground was home to the Ranger Schools short-lived Desert Training Phase. It was first known as the Desert Ranger Division (DRD) until redesignated the Ranger Training Brigades 7th Ranger Training Battalion in 1987, and taught students basic desert survival skills and small unit tactics. The program was later moved back to its original site at Fort Bliss, Texas in 1991, where it was deactivated in 1995

We discuss some of the military tests involved human exposure to biological and chemical agents with intriguing titles like:

  • “The Consequences of Ingestion by Man of Real and Simulated Fallout”
  • Cluster bombs
  • Soil spores
  • “Operation Night Train”
  • Weteye Chemical Bomb
  • Birds to Tularemia
  • “Big Jack”
  • “Elk Hunt”
  • “Autumn Gold”
  • “Data report for DORK”
  • Incapacitating Darts
  • Entomological Munitions

“Entomological Munitions” was an experiment conducted at Dugway called “Operation Bellwether” which appears to study weaponized mosquitos. They took mosquitoes with an inert disease, and inert bacteria, and an inert virus and released them on civilian populations in the United States.

Following the public attention drawn to Area 51 in the early 1990’s, UFO hunters claim that numerous UFOs have been stored and reported in the area around Dugway. Dugway is being hailed as the new Area 51 (or) Area 52 to the diehard UFO Hunters.

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